Reviews of the movie Zeitgeist by Peter Joseph
I’m not going to give much in the way of my own review on Zeitgeist here, but rather provide some links and point out the dearth of critical movie reviews of such an internet phenomenon. Loose Change has a whole slew of “debunking”/point by point “critiques”, etc. in the blogosphere, so why not something similar for Zeitgeist? If there is such a thing I haven’t run across it yet. Feel free to add a link here if you are aware of such a critique.
Anyway, my current one paragraph review of Zeitgeist might read as follows. Watch it, research it, come to your own conclusions based on your research. Tell others to do the same. If you think the movie is badly flawed, see if you can make a better one covering the information and which is covered in Zeitgeist.
Okay, now let’s take a quick look at some “reviews”
Jay Kinney reviews Zeitgeist, the Movie Okay review, raises legitimate points, but seems to slightly miss the point of Zeitgeist, IMO, which I believe is to offer a fairly encompassing 2 hour picture of “where we are now”. Thus, the movie brings a lot of material to the table, and rightly so. And the author of the movie Peter Joseph appears to be working on a line by line interactive transcript (only part 1 is available so far), which would appear to a be potentially a good start towards addressing the sources issue.
Utne Reader via The Stranger- pretty obviously a hit piece, rather than a review. But it’s a mention of the movie en passant, so I’ll mention my thoughts (in my comment after that blog entry linked above) on it here in passing.
Globa and Mail- Rejecting conspiracy thinking keeps it alive and well (which much be why we here so little about this movie, eh, eh? wink, wink, nudge nudge, knowwhatImean?) - Hit Piece
The funny thing about this stuff is that it’s all been thoroughly debunked for years. Everyone from Scientific American to Popular Mechanics have produced reports puncturing the central claims of the 9/11 theory, and when you look gullible next to Popular Mechanics, you know you’re in trouble.
Priceless. Yeah, Popular Mechanics. That strawman “debunking” is still being cited as authoritative. That was so, like 2004, or whenever. Is the author of this piece, Ivor Tossell,
actually even online? Ah, well. I shouldn’t resort to ad hom. Sorry.
Irish Times- Zeitgeist: the nonsense
Um, I think we can safely infer “hit piece” from the title alone, but read it (and a reply to it) in full (apologies for the formatting) here if you must…
and then here are a couple more:
Mythology and Iconoclasm of Zeitgeist The Movie (looks like a decent review, based on a skim.
and Boise State’s independent newspaper has ‘Zeitgeist’ raises real questions
That’s all I’ve got for you kids- on the most watched (for months now) Google video, Zeitgeist. Not much.
Unless you want to include pieces of mine such as a further research links for material in Zeitgeist post or Zeitgeist- what can we do?, etc. which aren’t really reviews.
Tags: movie reviews, Peter Joseph, Zeitgeist
January 17, 2008 at 6:27 pm
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January 19, 2008 at 5:25 am
All I have to say is amazing video really changed my perspective
February 6, 2008 at 2:21 am
Well done, Peter. Probably one of the most important, ‘must see’ doci’s to come along in years.
Any chance ‘Z’ will make it to mainstream Broadcast or Distribution?
February 6, 2008 at 7:36 am
Hey Earth Party,
I’m not Peter Joseph. I hope it might have a chance of that, but I have no inside knowledge of such possibilities. I’m “only” a blogger who likes the movie.
February 6, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Okay, people are free to have their opinions on Zeitgeist and the world and whatever. But, that doesn’t mean I have to approve their comments.
If you want to try rewording and/or souring your comment, Heathen Gliebe, you might at minimum refrain from mentioning “swimming pool and brothels” at a famous concentration camp.
You can believe or not believe what you choose, but I tend to eschew publishing unsourced/poorly sourced crap. Even if it is someone else’s words. It’s my blog. If you don’t like the rules I play by, I suggest you start your own blog.
February 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Yes, I’m a big bad censor, LOL. The problem is, Heathen Gliebe, not that I’m afraid of being called anti-semitic. That’s an old hat smear which is about as frightening to me as being called a censor by you is. The problem is I’ve gotten sick and tired of reading crap like the type you want to post here. If you wanted to talk specifics, name names and cite genuine sources- Rothschilds, PNAC, Richard Perle, Marc Grossman, AIPAC, JINSA, whatever… I’d have no problem with that. But no, the evil Jooows are responsible for everything wrong with the world (according to what I’m reading from you). I’m not wasting my time with BS like that. Been there, done that more often than I care to.
Anyone who wants to find rants like yours can look elsewhere. They’re not hard to find. Anyone who wants to do further research and reading on specifics and issues with actual decent links, might do well to start with the Pilots for 9/11 Truth library.
http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showforum=26
Don’t bother replying. It won’t get approved. Save yourself some time.
February 8, 2008 at 8:49 am
Take your crap elsewhere, troll. The internet’s a big playground. When you are unable to publish your BS anywhere on the net, I’ll be woried about the freedom of speech of your kind. Freedom of speech also means I get freedom of approval. Or not. Here- just for you…
http://www.webcitation.org/5VSHkA8B2
Also, since you seem so confident that Ron Paul is in favor of anything and everything being published anywhere anyone like yourself wants it to be, I suggest you take yourself on over to an official RP site which allows commentary and see how your screeds fly over there. In other words, piss off.
February 8, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Dear readers (and trolls, current and future),
I’m not the best moderator in the world. But I do (usually) attempt not to feed the trolls. It only encourages them. But, with my very own first troll on my own personal blog, I had to have a bit of fun first. Hope you understand…
http://www.webcitation.org/5VSHkA8B2
anyway, on controversial topics which attract internet attention (such as 9/11 Truth, Zeitgeist, etc.) trolls are an inevitable part of the landscape. They come in all different types. Further reading on trolls may be found from links here:
http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Troll
You may also find the 25 Rules of Disinformation useful reading, if you haven’t read them already. They predate 9/11, in case you were wondering…
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/RulesOfDisinformation.shtml
Anyway, that’s all the further I’m going with this little series of comments here. Anyone want to talk about Zeitgeist (nontrollishly, of course)?
March 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm
hey wecanchangetheworld
great blog
i loved this doc. Especially for the construction of it, i think it was amazing how much emotive content he got across. i dont see anyone posting comments on this just its accuracy. which is fair. yet it should be noted its well made too.
i just wanted to post my admiration. i hope too,for a future of peace.
steve