Peter Joseph’s movie Zeitgeist
Since this is consistently my blog’s most popular post, I may take the liberty of updating it from time to time. Note that there are now “debunks” and critiques of Zeitgeist around on the internet, both video and website. For my admittedly incomplete take on one of them (conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/) and mention of another (webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-federal-reserve) see the post A “debunking” of the movie Zeitgeist.
Prior to this update, it looked like this
It’s not my movie. If it had been my movie, this post would most likely be titled ”My movie Zeitgeist” by Peter Joseph. But instead it is titled
Thank you for showing interest in the amazingly popular internet video Zeitgeist, which was the most viewed Google video for several months and had over 5 million views and was getting 40,000 views per day late last year when Google stopped showing such statistics for videos.
Anyway, now that you are here and looking for more information about Zeitgeist and/or Peter Joseph, I’ll point you towards the official Zeitgeist website in a minute or two. However, before you head off there, perhaps never to return here, I’d like to write a bit on Zeitgeist.
It’s a great movie which covers a lot of material, but it does have limitations, as all such things do. For one, it is stuck in the past (it was released nearly a year ago, and the world has not stood still since then). This means that in order to know what the current Zeitgeist is, you will have to continue to read, watch and research the topics which Zeitgeist covers.
I have blog posts on news articles and information which may help you to keep current- mostly posted in categories such as privacy, datamining, Sibel Edmonds, Patriots Question 9/11, Zeitgeist, 9/11 Truth and probably a few others as well.
A recommended resource for many links to topics of interest is the library in the Pilots for 9/11 Truth forum. There you will finds tons of links to good reading and watching material categorized and put in alphabetical order. Also of note there is the Research corner, which provides links to “large resources that span multiple topics”
What topics are covered (in various levels of detail) in the library? Let’s take a look:
complete list of
Library Topics
with direct links
9/11 Commission (See: Investigations)
9/11 General
Abu Ghraib (See: Iraq / Detainment & Torture)
Afghanistan
al-CIAda
al-Qaeda (See: al-CIAda/ bin Laden/Terrorism)
Anthrax attacks(& US bio-chemical research program)
Banking (See: Federal Reserve / Money and Banking / Rockefellers & Rothschilds / US Dollar)
Big Brother
Bilderberg Group (See: NWO)
bin Laden confession tape
Bin Laden family (Carlyle group, Khalid bin Mahfouz, …)
bin Laden, Osama
Brzezinski, Zbigniew
Bush Administration (& it’s members]
Casualties of 9/11 truth (dead journalists, de-tenured scholars…)
Cell Phone/Air-phone calls
Central Asia
China & Russia
Christian Right (See: Religion)
CIA (See: Intelligence/al-CIAda)
City of London (Note the Caps…)
Clash of Civilzations (See: Brzezinski, Zbigniew)
Connecting the Dots (Kroll, BCCI, SAIC, etc…)
Constitution (See: US Constitution)
Council on Foreign Relations
Defense Contractors (& the Defense Policy Board)
Department of Defense (missing funds, Offices of Special Plans and Strategic Influence, etc.)
Detainment & Torture (Abu Graib, CIA Prisons, Rendition, etc.)
Drugs
ENRON
Essay Corner
FBI (See: Intelligence)
Federal Reserve
FEMA (Homeland Security, Katrina, camps, etc..)
Flight 93 (See: United Flight 93)
Flights 11, 175, 77 (See: WTC: Flights 11 & 175 / Pentagon and American Fl. 77 )
Ground Zero (clean up, rescuers & health problems…)
Guantanamo Bay (See: Detainment & Torture)
Halliburton
Hijackers
History (Wars, American Revolution, & other historical topics…)
Illuminati (See: Secret Societies)
Intelligence (FBI, CIA, 9/11 warnings & WMD lies…)
Investigations (9/11 commission, etc.)
Iran
Iraq
IRS
Israel (history, politics, Mossad, Palestinian..)
Japan & North Korea
Kennedy, John F.
Lebanon (See: Middle East / Israel)
Legal Cases (lawsuits & Supreme Court Decisions)
Legal Fraud & Personal Freedom (discovering who we are & who we aren’t)
Libby, Scooter (trial) (See: Plame, Valerie )
Liberty Vs. Tyranny
London (and other attacks)
Media
Middle East (Politics, history, Hamas/Hezbollah etc.)
Military Commissions Act of 2006 (See: PATRIOT Act / Detainment & Torture)
Mohammed, Ali
Money And Banking
Neoconservatives
New World Order
NORAD / FAA & the Air Defense response on 9/11
North American Union
NSA (See: Intelligence / Bush Administration / Big Brother)
O’Neill, John
Oklahoma City bombing (See: London & other attacks)
Other News & Articles
Pakistan & Inter-Services Intelligence
Passengers
PATRIOT Act & Military Commissions Act of 2006
Pentagon: and American Fl. 77
Pentagon: the Eyewitnesses
Pentagon: the Physical Evidence
Photos
Pipeline (CENTGAS, the Taliban and the trans-Afghan…)
Plame, Valerie
Planes, General and Technical (for individual flts see WTC, Fl 93, etc.)
PNAC
Police State (in America)
Politics & Corruption
Quotes
Research corner
Religion (as it relates to the war on terror)
Rendition (See: Detainment & Torture)
Reviews of books and films
Rockefellers & Rothschilds, et al…
Russia (See: China & Russia)
Secret Service
Secret Societies
Silverstein, Larry
Soviet-Afghan War
Speaking Out
Supreme Court (See: Legal cases)
Syria (See: Middle East)
Technology (remote control, voice morphing, etc…)
Terrorism (See: War on Terror)
Terrorists on Trial (Zacarias Moussaoui, etc.)
Thermite/thermate (See: WTC)
Torture (See: Detainment & Torture)
Total Information Awareness program (See: Big Brother)
Trilateral Commission (See: NWO)
United Flight 93
United Nations(& John Bolton)
US Constitution under assault
US Dollar (US debt, petro-dollars, etc.)
US Sponsored Terrorism (coups, foreign interventions)
Videos
Voter Fraud & touch-screen voting
War Games & drills
War on Terror
Weaponry (D.U., controversial programs, etc…)
Whistleblowers
Who Knew?
Why? (The possible motives behind 9/11)
WTC - towers 1 & 2
WTC: Controlled Demolition
WTC building #7
WTC: Flights 11 & 175
Zackheim, Dov
Zionism
Okay, those are a few (my blog and the P4T library) recommended resources in addition to the Zeitgeist site itself for informing yourself further.
Now, I’ve also written a bit here about “Zeitgeist, what can we do?” to which I will add a few more thoughts. Inform yourself, don’t take everything in Zeitgeist (or any other single source of information- no matter how good it seems) as the final word on the subject, and pass along what you are learning to others. Keep digging. Keep asking questions. Start conversations about this information (either online or offline). Start to think, write and talk about solutions. Because you are asking questions and seeking answers, you are already ahead of a lot of other people, so part of what you can do is to help spread the word on these issues. However, keeping balance in your life is an important thing to keep in mind- here are some good words of advice on doing that.
If you are involved in the political primary process in support of Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, or Mike Gravel, congratulations. But I would suggest that you not give up hope when your candidate of choice doesn’t make it through the primary (barring a miracle, of course). If you are working for the candidacy of one of the more “mainstream candidates” you might want to take a second look at that in light of the information in the movie Zeitgeist. The game has been rigged with tons of big primaries coming early and the mass media anointing chosen candidates with constant coverage. So, what next? That’s the question I want you to ask yourself.
Okay, thanks for reading. Feel free to leave a comment here or in one of the other posts on my blog in an effort to “start a conversation”.
Here’s the official Zeitgeist: The Movie site
If you want to help spread the word about Zeitgeist, keep in mind the date of March 15, 2008- Z Day. See if you can help organize a local showing (public or private) of Zeitgeist on that day. For more information, see the Zeitgeist Day page.
ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release on Google video
ETA: Thanks, readers for putting me @ #1 on this search and on the front page for “Peter Joseph“.
January 14, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Speaking of datamining, I am in the process of doing a series on the Army’s Able Danger program. While looking at open-source, unclassified information, it connected Condoleeza Rice to Chinese proliferation. Nice, huh? See my sidebar for the Information Dominance series.
January 14, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Oh, sorry — that is, Able Danger was looking at open source information on Al Qaeda, and while looking at Al Qaeda it came up with the Rice-China connection. See especially Part 4 for starters, but I address this in other posts as well, not just in that series.
http://stopislamicconquest.blogspot.com/2007/12/information-dominance-part-4.html
This is exactly the kind of thing that Sibel Edmonds is talking about.
January 15, 2008 at 3:59 am
911 is my sad history to reminding.
January 17, 2008 at 12:02 pm
[...] you want to include pieces of mine such as a further research links for material in Zeitgeist post or Zeitgeist- what can we do?, etc. which aren’t really [...]
January 23, 2008 at 2:19 am
There has been some traffic for this entry translated into Spanish by Google. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the translation, since my Spanish language skills aren’t up to the task, but it looks fairly good, from what I can tell. I’m sure there are some idioms which don’t translate literally, though, like connect the dots, for instance. Anyway, I’m glad to see that there is some interest in this post. Here’s the Google translated link for anyone who is interested-
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=en&u=http://wecanchangetheworld.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/peter-josephs-movie-zeitgeist/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPeter%2BJoseph%2BZeitgeist%26hl%3Des
January 25, 2008 at 6:11 am
I started my search for truth simply by investigating why Tom Cruise’s wife would leave him over scientology and what was this about a bomb shelter anyway. Of course, one thing led to another and here I am. It has been some time since the 9/11 incident, and I tell you, for the longest time, even the suggestion that it was not as presented was so revolting to me, well, let’s just say it took some time to even consider anything other than the official story.
With that in mind, I have to ask why you arranged the Z movie with the section on religion first, not last, for when the viewer would be warmed up to the idea of the world as we know it being a house of cards - an illusion. My fear, as far as spreading the word through the Z movie is concerned, is that telling folks that all “religion” and related stories are false, will instantly turn off a good portion of the people who might be woken to inquiry before the movie before what matters most - that there really is a man behind the curtain -
I seem to have lost my ability to put to words what I think might be a fatal flaw for the movie. I just think it might be more effective at reaching people if the section on religion were later in the movie.
That said, thank you for your work - I am spreading the word within my family and circle of friends as much as I can without being labeled a Kook. Keep up the good work - Thank You - Ken
January 25, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Hi Ken-
I just wanted to clarify for you Zeitgeist isn’t a movie which I, the author of this blog made. I just like the movie and am working to spread the information.
As far as your question goes, I recognise that some people have difficulty accepting the parts about religion which come first in the movie, but I think people who have difficulty with that may also find other parts of the movie difficult to swallow if they were presented first as well.
The movie’s three parts- religion, the United States, and financial matters (or God, country and money, if you prefer) all serve in different ways to prop up a belief system which most people in the western world have been raised believing. No matter which part is addressed first, it may be difficult and threatening for people.
Personally, I suspect that the reason that Peter Joseph chose to open with religion rather than the other two is that it gives the reader the most historical background. Beginning with 9/11, for instance, even if one went back to the roots in the middle east and oil would only take the audience back a century or so at most. While financial issues could be taken back as far as (or nearly so) as religion, that would probably make for a long movie all by itself. Take, for instance The Money Masters- http://www.themoneymasters.com/synopsis.htm which clocks in at 3 1/2 hours. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
As well, 9/11 has had several full length movies made about it. So, to get a quick but relatively whole picture, religion seems to me to be the best place to start off a 2 hour film. But I can’t speak for Peter Joseph, that’s just my opinion. If I feel that someone might not be accepting of the first part, sometimes I recommend people might want to skip over it and watch some of the other parts of the video instead (or first). I hope this comment helps you.
January 28, 2008 at 12:41 am
I think if you left out the religion stuff you’d have a lot of more people backing you. When you attack the heart of people’s faith (which of course can’t be proven by man’s techniques — it is “realized”), people stop listening. It’s too bad — you had some good info, but your credibility, after Part I, is questioned. You lost an entire audience. And your research is flawed. Most people who have done the research realize that Jesus was not born on December 25, but in the spring. I do realize the church has caused harm, but it’s also caused a lot of good. We have come a long way from God’s intent. And, there are alot of Christians who realize that. You’re right — we need to love each other, though…that is one thing you said right.
January 28, 2008 at 1:54 am
T.K.- it’s not my movie. I didn’t make it. Those who don’t want to watch the first part of it are not obligated to. The movie is also available in sections (at YouTube, for instance). Since it is now getting 2 million views a month, I’d say it’s doing pretty well, despite its flaws- which I agree I does have some. Someone industrious might even be able to cash in on this month’s “Zeitgeist” ( http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m177/wassertanzen13/Google-video-Zeitgeist-January-2008.jpg ) by making a perfect commercial movie incorporating this type of information. I’d pay to see it.
February 23, 2008 at 9:27 am
Saludos from Spain!
First I´d like to thank you very much for making this film. It has made me feel very naïve, but that was really necessary. I knew most of the bits in part I, from my own conclusions, since I am a practising Atheist …
I now live in Sevilla, Andalucía, in the south of Spain, and I have sent the link to everyone I know, but so far the link to the events seem to be coming up with some sort of… server error?? Or something, I am not very good at computers. Sorry, I can´help you there…
That´s why ,on Sunday, mainly for the irony of the day, I´m having people over so they can see the film at my place. I´ll let you know how it goes.
What I can help you with really is with the cleaning up of the grammar in the spanish translation, which I assume and hope is totally automatic, because it´s pretty much ununderstandable if you don´t know before hand what you´re supposed to be reading. And if you know, it´s not that clear either.
I have worked as a translator before, and one of the things you don´t do is translate people´s first and last names. I inform you with all my ingenuity, since you are very much THE informer here, that you are known in Spain as “Pedro José” by people reading that page, which is basically the same as if Julio Iglesias was known as July Churches (translated name) in the U.S. You see the problem it causes when it comes to searches, etc.
So, I´m volunteering to do that, and if you want, send me the links to the French and Italian translations as well, because, if they are automatic, they are likely to be ghastly too, and you are probably known as Pierre Joseph in France and Pietro Giuseppe in Italy.
I´m good enough at both french and italian, perhaps not as confident as in English, but if I have doubts, I have ready access to help from native speakers of both languages in my Uni.
I need a few days to do this, because my health is not great, but I can have all three in less than a week, provided I can ask you once a day to clarify terms with which I might not be familiar. If you have the time to do this, so do I. It will help me focus away from my illness as well. I need that anyway.
I would like to ask you a question concerning Spain´s current political situation: is the socialist government, based on any knowledge that you might have, just as corrupt as the Partido Popular?? Do I even bother to vote? Are elections staged??
I might be in hospital by election day, but if I´m not, I´d like to know I´m not being toyed with by the people I think are less bad.. I´m not a fan of either party, and like I said, I´m quite naïve, but the thing that comes to mind first is to vote for our current president to knock the Partido Popular out of any chances of coming back to power (they were responsible for S-Pain´s participation in the Iraki War, and for covering up lies with more lies, as José María Aznar latter admitted, although not in so many words).
If you think I can be useful at all, please let me know so I can get to work before I have to go to the hospital (this might not happen yet, but I wil know for sure on March 3rd. In any case, I will have enough time before I go on that day to do the translations, if you want.
Thanks again.
Aleksandra Hunyadi-Deacon
February 23, 2008 at 9:52 am
Hi there, Aleksandra. Thanks for your comment. First, off I’m not Peter Joseph. I did provide Google translation links for this one blog entry, so they are automatic. As far as I’m aware, Spanish was the only language which literally translated the words in the name Peter Joseph. I left it that way more out of amusement than because I thought it was accurate. I know that the automatic translations are notoriously poor and are often incomprehensible. The reason I decided to post links to them at all was that I had noticed that this blog post was getting a significant number of hits from Spanish language translations of it, so I decided to provide the links for a few other languages.
If you think that something I’ve written here is worth translating into Spanish or other languages, by all means feel free! If you have questions as to the meaning of anything on this page, feel free to ask. But, as I say, I’m neither Peter Joseph nor associated with him.
Unfortunately, I’m not aware of politics too much outside of US politics. However, I suspect that probably the things covered in Zeitgeist hold true in many if not most developed countries in the world now. I would encourage you to seek out local political bloggers on the internet, since often they tell more of the real story than the press will. I hope this helps clarify things for you. Good luck with your showing of the movie! If it goes well, you might consider participating in a world Zeitgeist day showing on March 15th, even though the deadline has passed for it to be an official event.
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/zday.htm
February 23, 2008 at 10:27 am
Ok, I think I will have a look anyway and see what I can do. Sorry for confusing your identity, the meds are making me a bit less alert just now,and the first time I came in, I just looked at the spanish link , and when I am confronted with a language problem that I can help with, especially for a great cause like this, I have to do my best to help.
I totally failed to read this morning, though!!
But obviously your opinion matters if you are writing in this blog. If I am not in hospital, I would love to go to Seville´s event. Everyone I talk to about this is giving me blank looks, though. How discourging. I feel like shouting at them! Or the equivalent in netspeak. Which is caps.
Anyway, thanks again, if not for making the movie, then for making this blog. I will find the libary topics most helpful when I can read again!
Aleksandra Hunyadi-Deacon.
February 23, 2008 at 10:29 am
P.S. And if I feel it´s going to help my peers understand Zeitgeist better, I will probably translate some of those links, if health allows.
February 23, 2008 at 11:03 am
Great!
March 2, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I agree with many of you. The movie is trying to fight two battles in one film diluting the effectiveness of both messages. Being an open-minded religious man, I was able to stomach the beginning portion of the movie, but I highly doubt people with similar convictions would bother watching passed the first 10 minutes of it. Parts 2 and 3 of the film is mind-bending and it would be a shame that people fail to see it. Don’t give the cynicist/skeptic the opportunity to dismiss the message.
BTW, wecanchangetheworld, you’re not P.J. I got the memo.
March 6, 2008 at 2:10 am
If you don’t like any part of it, it’s because “they” have already made a good job on you.
Try to think on this:
Tomorrow there will be no money at all, what would you do?
Try harder….
Money is a way of control and the system keeps the rich, rich and the poor, poor.
Regards.
March 15, 2008 at 4:41 am
If we take a look at our current political situation we see very interesting things. Looking at the way the political campaign trail has played out during the primary race, the coverage, the polls, the demographics, each and everything that has led up to this, we are upon an inevitable split or “division”. Going back a year, we see a slew of conservative republicans leading the race in an acrimonious battle over which will be the toughest on immigration, the most militant and the most benign to the rich, hence, Romney, Guilianni and Huckabee and a lingering John McCain, on his way out, “liberal” republican, left unconsidered. Once again, the farce, put false faces on the culprits, it was obvious votes weren’t going that way in the end, thus by bringing back McCain you’ve brought a seemingly decent candidate in comparison to the other 3 televised candidates to draw the split, shock and surprise.Then we have Obama and Clinton representing so many elements of vision and concept, that have nothing to do with the representation of an ecclectic mass of millions, considering women and black men are supposedly represented to begin with. We’ve allowed this debate to go on, neck and neck, until the point in which the democrats will thrash at eachother so violently that neither supporters will vote for the other candidate come november, so you have obama’s voting for only obama, hillary only for hillary and when either one drops, we have been so manipulated to hate the other, that we drift to McCain. But then we’re all pissed, we’re all fooled, hence revolutionary scenario one, very unhappy democrats, societal split. Scenario 2, obama loses, the black people are angry, hillary loses, women are angry, conservatives are angry either way, the systems held accountable. We either stand etherized or chaos breaks, thus even if we need to be led to the cataclysm, opportunity avails, sadly it has taken too long, but the time is definately ripe.
April 26, 2008 at 1:55 am
Those who are put off by the religious part of the movie are making a valid point and missing the point simultaneously. The movie does attack the “factuality” of the central tenants of religion, but that is not the point being made. The point is that a free people cannot afford to allow themselves to be divided and conquered by the powers that be by playing on their religious bigotry and fervor.
The movie HAD to shake belief in the majority religion because if OUR religion is really factual, moral or logical, then bigotry and fervor in its promotion and the demotion of all other religions might seem justifiable to those not yet able to see that freedom is the only morality and slavery is the only immorality.
April 26, 2008 at 6:33 am
The truth hurts sometimes. I’m agnostic (not athiest, tyvm), so part 1 of the film was old news for me. I’m interested, those who said the research was flawed, DO elaborate. Someone mentioned the Jesus born on the 25th thing, the filmmaker touches on this and everything else in a radio interview that can be heard in FIVE parts on youtube.com.
I implore anyone interested in this movie and it’s message to listen to Peter Joseph speak in the aforementioned interview. Just YOUTUBE SEARCH: Peter Joseph interview
May 6, 2008 at 6:46 am
[...] (note to new readers of this blog- I’ve read and researched (both online and offline) on many of the topics covered by the movie since well before the movie was released and provide some links for some further recommended reading on some of the topics covered both below and in my most popular blog post- Peter Joseph’s movie Zeitgeist) [...]